who r u ???

i suppose maos great leap forward and stalin and nazis were conspiracies. are u mainlining sodium fluoride??? to mingle bovine abduction with actual programs of globalist enslavement of humanity show 1 of 2 things. and both of them mean u r a tool and a hopeless dick. you are so inside the matrix. do you even know how to read ???

That being said, you might want to be gentle on victims. While I believe that the vast majority of them are fakes or disinformation agents, there is a direct correlation between PTSD (brought on by a bunch of people harassing you over time) and brain trauma. In fact, this reeks of causing trauma from a distance which takes it back to the non consensual experimentation lineage. In addition, the trauma caused by this makes the person susceptible, can cause radical personality changes (esp. paranoid, narcissistic, borderline) etc.

In addition to this, group activity can cause further problems in terms of paranoia. When we are under overt harassment, they use things to anchor us – symbols, certain things on the road etc. What happens is that in “documenting” the incidents as some suggest should be done, the paranoia deepens. The harassers would have the victims be referential – it’s about turning a person’s mind against itself.

How do I know I haven’t lost it? Because my harassers happened to use the internet to do the NLP harassment – and I collected quite a bit of very clear evidence that I was targeted by them. At some point I ignored them, this also made them have to work harder to get my attention… as they became more obvious, they left evidence.

A look into the literature on PTSD and 1) brain injury 2) personality effect as well as literature on “breaking” people (e.g. Sargant), conversion theories of that time period and what little we know about MK Ultra projects on cults, you will note that the truth is somewhere in the middle. There are people who are being harassed, but the the effects of the trauma coupled with the disinformation and “organized stalking” meme makes them less believable and even further alienated from society.

Another factor is that many victims complain that the electronic harassment is made to mimic schizophrenia. I will go further and state that the psychological harassment and generalized trauma created by the situation is made to look like other things – gaslighting for example can appear like dissociative disorder. It’s like the sociopaths orchestrating this have taken the DSM and worked it backwards – artifically (and through social engineering) created symptoms of paranoid personality, schizotypal personality, histronic personality etc.

A funny thing is that I kind of fell for the OS thing initially, but never for the whole picture since I see much more emphasis on “social engineering” than I do on other aspects. Ironically my harassers were so eager to have me believe conspiracies (they kept posting things about 2012 – I thought I was being chased by a millenarian cult lol) that they made me realize that this was part of the point of the exercise.

Make no mistake about it. There are people under harassment – I’m sure I’m not the only one. Some of those like myself are survivors from previous non consensual experimentation (multigenerational in my case). For me, one of the cruelest parts of the harassment is to cointelpro groups that do little to solve this problem nationally or for the individual and much to cause further damage, psychiatric trauma and social isolation to traumatized individuals (that is then made to appear as self-inflicted).

I’m waiting for the day that whatever agency is behind this harassment is held accountable for the number of lives, relationships, and careers that have been destroyed.

In other news, I just saw the 2012 movie. What a bunch of crap. Fun special effects, but one tires of the complete disregard for science that Hollywood has. Unfortunately the teeming masses will probably take it all as fact.

Fascinating. I love how the author starts out with thoughtful science, then suddenly veers off the cliff of reality. But naturally, it all makes sense in hir context.

Thought you’d want to check and see if you’re a crossbreed alien. Jessamy and I are, Bob and Jessamy’s so called brother aren’t. You wouldn’t think I could be mistaken about that second baby but he’s clearly not alien spawn, unlike the other one.

I guess I wasn’t clear when I said that whether aliens exist or not they don’t really affect my life. I meant that sentiment as applicable within our existing framework – obviously if aliens landed in my back yard tonight (if I had a backyard) that would greatly affect my life. But it’s such a far-out notion – I really don’t see the mystery being resolved in my lifetime, therefore I don’t expend much time or energy pondering it. Of course I would like know for certain that there is other intelligent life out there, and it would be great to communicate with them, and of course taking flights to other worlds a la Doctor Who would be funtabulous. But I’m pretty certain none of that is going to happen in the foreseeable future – so no, it doesn’t really affect my life.
it’s interesting hearing that you would love to meet one. I’m not so sure, myself – I think I would have a lot of fear around the experience – but that’s probably just having watched too many scary sci-fi movies.

I knew about nearly all of the metaphysical things you mention with the glaring exception of Immanuel Velikovsky – so naturally I had to go look him up. He sounds like a precursor to Sitchen, et al – interpreting ancient texts (the Bible, papyrus scrolls) in a unique way to explain cosmology and celestial mechanics.

I like your Neandertal & Sea Creature Conspiracy. Is this strictly of your invention discovery, or do others subscribe? And how exactly are they involved with Kennedy’s assassination?

Speaking of, a reader unknown to me just shared a new CT s/he came across – that “JFK may have been assassinated to suppress the development of ocean tidal energy generation in order to protect oil and conventional energy interests.” The full story here. In my research I came across similar conspiracies revolving around big oil protecting their interests, but nothing this specific.

In a related story, Wired just published an article giving more details about the Army’s (not the CIA’s) involvement with testing LSD on human subjects. Apparently the Army acquired thirty to forty pounds of the drug – equaling a few hundred million doses and with a street value somewhere around a billion dollars. Umm.. where did it all go?

Sorry to hear you have the flu! Did you get vaccinated? [another great article about that here.]
I’ve had a cold myself for the past week, crappy. Sending you warm and healing thoughts on the etheric vibration channel.

The list of things I’ve tentatively wanted to believe, that I turned out not to be able to, numbers in the high six figures I’m sure. As a child of the 60s I’ve tried to believe in mental telepathy, levitation, teleportation, telekinesis, Kirlian fields, crystals, aromas, herbs, more herbs, special hallucinogenic herbs, spices, molds, mushrooms, crystals, powders, or powers, spoon bending, telepathy with Dolphins, telepathy with the Earth It (Her) Self, Gaia consciousness, UFOs, Therapeutic Touch, singing to plants, plant consciousness, plant pain, Area 51, alien autopsies, alien artifacts/potsherds/language bits, various forms of massage, water immersion, and physical bondings, pokings, piercings, and decorating of a metaphysical nature. Body decorating and room and house decorating. I don’t think anybody has ever tried to get me to see meaning in house piercing or massaging but you never know. And those were just the few things I’ve been invited to believe I thought of in 90 seconds. I’m pretty sure there are at least 600,000 more. Oops, forgot ancient aliens/ And Atlanteans. Oh, and I forgot Immanuel Velikovsky, a long time fave who still has a soft spot in my heart. I enjoyed, or even enjoy, lots of them, but I don’t ‘believe’ any of them. So far. Always willing. Send any good ones along. Not just aliens, I like any good conspiracy theory too.

I’m looking for evidence for my Neanderthal & Sea Creature Conspiracy Theory if you happen to run into any. It must fit accepted mainstream physical laws and observations, not be definitively able to be disproved by mainstream proofs, though Occam’s razor is okay to mess with discreetly, and flagrantly eventually, of course. (I mean, once it’s been proven that Neanderthals still live and are engaged with Sea Creaturesn in a Global Conspiracy to Save Our Earth From The Humans–maybe some Land or Air Creatures too, don’t know about that yet, no evidence. By rigorous theory rules, nothing that can’t be disproved is forbidden as part of the theory, but has to abide by physical evidence/observations, though not by theory if that makes sense? I figure it’s the Neanderthals, most of the Cetaceans, Mollusca and Cephalapods, and who knows who else, we have yet to discover…)

Velikovsky would have been very handy to have around for Neanderthals of The Sea (I’m trying out different catch phrases for the theory, none good so far) as he had a great talent for false correlation and honing in on the oddities of reality and deluging with footnotes and coming up with a great anti-Occam theory to tie it all together.

Keep a sharp eye out for evidence as you travel.

I have the flu and will very likely die before this theory is fully proved.

Not sure though if we are in the same camp in re UFOs so we should check.

I’m unable to go farther at this time than they represent interestingly fun unexplained things humans see and say they see. Some of them are more interesting than others, but, unfortunately, I don’t see anything that leads us one inch in the direction of aliens. Damnit.

Think it’s easy to fall into feeling that there’s a fabric where there’s really only a pile of threads or just little bits of random fluff? But I find lots of the threads in this pile very interesting and lots of fun, and because I WANT there to be aliens in my life. I want the actual proof before I die and it’s unlikely to happen, though I believe the science we have now makes it totally likely sentient beings are truckin’ around on other planets in pretty large numbers. And I’m not somebody who ever believed in the Drake equation, so I think I’m going on observed science here, not completely invalid ‘equations’ where the math is right but the assumptions are just made up.

So, I ‘believe’ there are aliens (residents of other planets or something even more interesting I haven’t thought of) and I wish they’d visit us since we can’t visit them (yet.) But I don’t see any evidence that they have, or are. I don’t know any sighting that couldn’t just as easily be explained by a secret race of creatures below the ocean floor, or living in deep caves in the Himalayas, or physical phenomenon or na we don’t understand and yet we’ve all somehow settled on alien off Earth creatures with some sort of agenda we can’t understand.

I think this likely says more about humans than aliens, though I’m always hoping. And I do have my own vague list of faves from over the years, or from people I trust or large groups or multiple photographers who don’t seem to know each other and that sort of thing, but none of them ever says by definition alien, just odd and as yet unexplained. But interesting, and fun, and because I do want aliens to come talk to me, it seems reasonable to pay enough attention to the topic that any good stuff drifts by me. I love a good UFO.

But part of my caution is that twice I’ve seen UFOs that if I’d stopped looking or clouds had arrived or something just one second earlier had stopped seeing before I/we figured them out I’d be a ‘I’ve seen a/4 UFOs goddamnit and I know it sounds nuts but I did and I won’t say I didn’t’ person. I’d be in the Jimmy Carter group, careful to say just what I’d seen, but stating that firmly, while not in any way saying I took it as an indication of alien visitation. If I’d stopped being able to see one second before, that’s where I’d be. And yet neither of them were aliens. Total bummer. I’ve been pissed for years. And just this summer, the friend I saw the other one with and I were sitting on a porch looking out over the Straits of Mackinac, reading and being quiet and enjoying the beauty, and friendship of decades, and out of the very real blue she says “I wish that UFO we saw that time had been a real one. and it really was landing…” We had reached the point of carefully describing to each other what we were seeing before it finally resolved into a non-landing UFO light. We had both agreed on things that once we understood turned out not to be true at all–distances, heights, interpretation of what the light/s were doing, everything. But we would have sworn on Einstein’s grave we’d seen something very different. The other thing that has struck me since then, is that both of us instantly thought alien spacecraft. No other explanation or hypothesis occurred to either of us and talking to other people who ‘saw’ or thought for awhile they saw something have all said the same thing. There’s a cultural assumption at this point in time that in another era would probably have been default assigned to the category of angels or demons. Humans see things, what they are is less clear, but we sure do see things. I’m thinking of taking up the cause of creatures, hidden Neanderthals maybe, who live in mountains and unknown caves and volcanoes and interesting fissures AND beneath the seas. Octopuses are their associates. This would solve the distances problem and the why are they interested in us problem. I have a strong attachment to Neanderthals and I am sure they are among us, hiding their gentle genius…

I’ve continued to read up on all this stuff since writing the post, and there does seem to be flimsy evidence for animal mutilations (and demonstrative evidence for how the symptoms can naturally occur). So my position has evolved on that subject.
Alien abduction I’ve always thought to be B.S.
But UFO’s – and it sounds like we’re in the same camp on this one – there does seem to be a genuine mystery there that in many cases is truly unexplainable.

Sad to hear that there are so many Obama conspiracists in your neck of the woods. For whatever reason, there’s very little of that kind of talk down here. I think once you leave the States, the minute politics of health care reform (for example) become less important, and people concentrate instead on big-picture conspiracies.

Agenda 21 I hadn’t even heard of until you mentioned it. Wow, two months spent obsessively researching conspiracy theories and you bring a new one to my attention. The conspiracist’s mind knows no limits.

Very interesting and nicely researched and organized, hilarious to see it all gathered together in one flowing fabric of insanity. I do love a good conspiracy and found several new ones here, thank you

I think animal mutilations are bull, as it were. I’ve never seen any evidence any more convincing than crop circle ‘evidence’. Ditto abductions. If’n it was me, I’d separate out the observably true nature of some unidentified objects or phenomena, i.e., they seem to be objects/phenomena and we don’t know how to explain them, from the offer of possible evidence in animal mutilations or abductions. The unresolved nature of many UFO sightings as an interesting area doesn’t need further peripheral, and much more iffy, stuff to support the general premise?

(I’d be very happy to consider anything you think I should take a look at in re mutilation or abduction, of course, nothing I like better than thoroughly assessing a nice putrefying corpse or person who’s undergone surgery in a spaceship, and I mean it as you know, but so far I’m left cold by the ‘evidence’. Most interesting to me as a strange human fear psychology issue, the oddity of the idea and spread and the demographics and unchallenged assumptions, etc.) (I think this is one of the places Wikipedia is a problem. The standard of citation somewhere, anywhere, can be misleading.) I myself like UFOs the best because they’re so nice and open ended.

Interesting to me that there isn’t a big Obama section. Not a big topic of conspiracy talk there? It’s major big time here, Birthers, Deathers, NaziSocialistCommie, very etc. Virulent in some areas and groups. Like the UP of Michigan, and most rural areas. And many urban ones.

Agenda 21 is a biggie recurrently in the UP. The United Nations IS out to get us. And take our water. Among other things.

xox